{"id":74205,"date":"2017-10-25T15:00:00","date_gmt":"2017-10-25T13:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/74205\/so-maak-jy-kind-vir-galg-groot\/"},"modified":"2017-10-25T15:48:26","modified_gmt":"2017-10-25T13:48:26","slug":"so-maak-jy-kind-vir-galg-groot","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/develop.citizen.co.za\/middelburg-observer\/news-headlines\/2017\/10\/25\/so-maak-jy-kind-vir-galg-groot\/","title":{"rendered":"Stem in ons meningspeiling &#8211; \u2018So maak jy kind vir galg groot!\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So meen \u2019n advokaat en pastoor Maandag na die <a href=\"http:\/\/www.judiciary.org.za\/high-courts.html\" target=\"_blank\">Suid Gautengse Hooggeregshof<\/a> in Johanneburg Donderdag beslis het dat ouers nie lyfstraf kan toepas nie.<\/p>\n<p>\u2019n Moslempa het sy 13-jarige seun geskop en geslaan nadat hy die knaap betrap het dat hy pornografie op die internet kyk. Daar is beslis hy kan nie die verweer van \u2018ouerlike plig\u2019 in die hof aanvoer nie.<\/p>\n<p>Die seun het na die voorval kriminele klagtes teen sy pa, wie ook sy vrou in dieselfde voorval aangerand het, gel\u00ea.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/potchefstroomherald.co.za\/40242\/ouers-kan-nou-krimineel-vervolg-word-oor-pakslae\/\" target=\"_blank\">Regter Reileen Keightley het bevind<\/a> dat ouers nie aan die nakoming van landswette kwytgeskeld kan word nie, selfs al is dit hul godsdienstige oortuiging dat hulle hul kinders moet tugtig.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOuers wat aan lyfstraf glo kan nie hul godsdienstige oortuigings bo die belang van hul kinders stel nie,\u201d het sy ges\u00ea.<\/p>\n<script>\nvar gform;gform||(document.addEventListener(\"gform_main_scripts_loaded\",function(){gform.scriptsLoaded=!0}),document.addEventListener(\"gform\/theme\/scripts_loaded\",function(){gform.themeScriptsLoaded=!0}),window.addEventListener(\"DOMContentLoaded\",function(){gform.domLoaded=!0}),gform={domLoaded:!1,scriptsLoaded:!1,themeScriptsLoaded:!1,isFormEditor:()=>\"function\"==typeof InitializeEditor,callIfLoaded:function(o){return!(!gform.domLoaded||!gform.scriptsLoaded||!gform.themeScriptsLoaded&&!gform.isFormEditor()||(gform.isFormEditor()&&console.warn(\"The use of gform.initializeOnLoaded() is deprecated in the form editor context and will be removed in Gravity Forms 3.1.\"),o(),0))},initializeOnLoaded:function(o){gform.callIfLoaded(o)||(document.addEventListener(\"gform_main_scripts_loaded\",()=>{gform.scriptsLoaded=!0,gform.callIfLoaded(o)}),document.addEventListener(\"gform\/theme\/scripts_loaded\",()=>{gform.themeScriptsLoaded=!0,gform.callIfLoaded(o)}),window.addEventListener(\"DOMContentLoaded\",()=>{gform.domLoaded=!0,gform.callIfLoaded(o)}))},hooks:{action:{},filter:{}},addAction:function(o,r,e,t){gform.addHook(\"action\",o,r,e,t)},addFilter:function(o,r,e,t){gform.addHook(\"filter\",o,r,e,t)},doAction:function(o){gform.doHook(\"action\",o,arguments)},applyFilters:function(o){return gform.doHook(\"filter\",o,arguments)},removeAction:function(o,r){gform.removeHook(\"action\",o,r)},removeFilter:function(o,r,e){gform.removeHook(\"filter\",o,r,e)},addHook:function(o,r,e,t,n){null==gform.hooks[o][r]&&(gform.hooks[o][r]=[]);var d=gform.hooks[o][r];null==n&&(n=r+\"_\"+d.length),gform.hooks[o][r].push({tag:n,callable:e,priority:t=null==t?10:t})},doHook:function(r,o,e){var t;if(e=Array.prototype.slice.call(e,1),null!=gform.hooks[r][o]&&((o=gform.hooks[r][o]).sort(function(o,r){return o.priority-r.priority}),o.forEach(function(o){\"function\"!=typeof(t=o.callable)&&(t=window[t]),\"action\"==r?t.apply(null,e):e[0]=t.apply(null,e)})),\"filter\"==r)return e[0]},removeHook:function(o,r,t,n){var e;null!=gform.hooks[o][r]&&(e=(e=gform.hooks[o][r]).filter(function(o,r,e){return!!(null!=n&&n!=o.tag||null!=t&&t!=o.priority)}),gform.hooks[o][r]=e)}});\n<\/script>\n\n                <div class='gf_browser_gecko gform_wrapper gform_legacy_markup_wrapper gform-theme--no-framework gpoll_enabled_wrapper gpoll_show_results_link_wrapper gpoll_wrapper' data-form-theme='legacy' data-form-index='0' id='gform_wrapper_26' >\n                        <div class='gform_heading'>\n                            <h3 class=\"gform_title\">Gee jy nog pakslae?<\/h3>\n                            <p class='gform_description'>Meningspeiling oor hoe ouers oor nuwe wetgewing voel.<\/p>\n                        <\/div><form method='post' enctype='multipart\/form-data'  id='gform_26' class='gpoll_enabled gpoll_show_results_link gpoll' action='http:\/\/develop.citizen.co.za\/middelburg-observer\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/74205' data-formid='26' novalidate>\n                        <div class='gform-body gform_body'><ul id='gform_fields_26' class='gform_fields top_label form_sublabel_below description_below validation_below'><li id=\"field_26_1\" class=\"gfield gfield--type-poll gfield--type-choice gfield--input-type-radio field_sublabel_below gfield--has-description field_description_below field_validation_below gfield_visibility_visible gfield--choice-align-vertical gpoll_field\"  data-field-class=\"gpoll_field\" ><label class='gfield_label gform-field-label' ><span class='gform-field-label__text'>Onwettig om jou kind pakslae te gee. 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                 <\/form>\n                        <\/div>\n<p>\u201cOuers wat hul kinders pak gee moenie lukraak vervolg en gestraf word nie.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWaar moontlik moet ander ingrypings eers gebruik word.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/af.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lyfstraf_in_skole\" target=\"_blank\">Lyfstraf in skole<\/a> is reeds sedert 1997 ingevolge die Skolewet onwettig maar tot nou kon ouers nog ingevolge gemenereg nog matige of redelike lyfstraf toepas.<\/p>\n<p>Skole het sedertdien juis op ouers staat gemaak om dissipline toe te pas.<\/p>\n<p>Voorvalle van lyfstraf in die ouerhuis gaan nou soos gewone aanranding vervolg word, maar strawwe vir ouers sal wissel.<\/p>\n<p>Howe sal waarskynlik bemiddeling voorskryf, eerder as direkte straf soos boete of tronkstraf.<\/p>\n<p>Doktor Thinus van der Merwe, pastoor van die <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/Lighuis-Gemeente-Middelburg-1048078498577960\/\" target=\"_blank\">AGS Lighuis Gemeente<\/a> in Aerorand, het Maandagoggend in \u2019n gesprek met <a href=\"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.mobserver.co.za<\/a> ges\u00ea dat hy deeglik bewus is van die saak en uitspraak wat sedert Donderdag landwyd opslae gemaak het in die gedrukte en radio media.<\/p>\n<p>Hy het ges\u00ea dat daar &#8216;n duidelike verskil is tussen tugtiging en aanranding.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cDie Skrif is baie duidelik dat \u2019n kind getugtig moet word. Anders maak jy hom vir die galg groot.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-74364\" src=\"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/92\/2017\/10\/lyfstraf-480x400.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/dwu32cgxelq1c.cloudfront.net\/local_newspapers\/sites\/92\/2017\/10\/lyfstraf-480x400.jpg 480w, https:\/\/dwu32cgxelq1c.cloudfront.net\/local_newspapers\/sites\/92\/2017\/10\/lyfstraf-168x140.jpg 168w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>\u201cDie (AGS) kerk is teen alle vorme van geweld en aanranding &#8211; hetsy teenoor \u2019n man, vrou of kind, maar ondersteun die Bybelse beginsel van tugtiging.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Doktor Van der Merwe is ook \u2019n praktiserende advokaat en dien op die AGS Suid-Afrika se Regsraad.<\/p>\n<p>Soos vele ander voel hy dat tugtiging \u2019n laaste uitweg moet wees.<\/p>\n<p>Ouers moet hul kinders eerder dissiplineer deur hul van hul voorregte soos sakgeld te ontneem en hul te hok (ground).<\/p>\n<p>In Skotland is die toediening van enige vorm van lyfstraf ook die afgelope week verbied.<\/p>\n<h3>Ander nuus:<\/h3>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/74198\/huis-van-gruwels-ouers-wat-eet-terwyl-honger-kind-kyk-bly-in-aanhouding\/\" target=\"_blank\">Huis van gruwels &#8211; Ouers wat eet terwyl kinders honger moet toekyk, bly in aanhouding<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/74178\/eskom-power-cuts-whole-town\/\" target=\"_blank\">Eskom power cuts the whole town<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mobserver.co.za\/74155\/weather-for-the-week-13\/\" target=\"_blank\">Weather for the week<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<h3><\/h3>\n<h3>Want breaking news on the go?<\/h3>\n<p>Add us on WhatsApp. Save the number 072 248 3855 on your phone and send a WhatsApp message with the words &#8220;Add me&#8221; to receive news broadcasts.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cDie Skrif is baie duidelik dat \u2019n kind getugtig moet word. 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